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Currently, we have multitude of various version specific DE tags and flavour tags.

My feeling is that the group of tags should be made synonyms of each other to prevent users from getting confused.:

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, and

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To be honest, I don't think we have to have this many multiple tags when they more often than not, are pointing to the same thing. But, for anything to happen, we need community consensus.

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  • Add two answer for choosing options, the votes will tell then. like this one meta.askubuntu.com/q/3448/61218
    – Anwar
    Jun 21, 2012 at 12:18
  • I think this also merits some discussion, as there are technical issues here that must be aired and thought through. (I'll post soon to contribute to such discussion.) Jun 21, 2012 at 12:19

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Merging Versioned and Versionless Desktop Environment Tags

I think (and , if we have it) could be made synonyms of . Similarly, (and , if we have it) could be made synonyms of . Before doing this, it would be good to make sure we're not losing significant information from questions that use this (and only this) to indicate what version of KDE they're talking about. If it's just a few questions that would lose this information, they could be edited to add it.

Merging Desktop Environment Tags with Ubuntu "Flavor" Tags

As for merging and , or and , or and , I'm not as sure this would work out well.

A question tagged , , or is a question that is deliberately about a desktop environment. A tag denoting an Ubuntu flavor is much more general and may not capture that a question is specifically and intentionally related to the associated desktop environment.

In contrast, any user of Lubuntu, Xubuntu, or Kubuntu may tag their questions that way for the following reasons:

  • They want people to answer their question with instructions that can be followed in their Ubuntu flavor. For example:

    • Kubuntu users cannot generally use gksu or gksudo to run a graphical program as root, because they probably don't have those commands. Instead, they usually must (and otherwise still generally should) use kdesudo. This doesn't mean the question itself is about the desktop environment.

    • Different flavors have different default text editors, web browsers, terminal applications, default office applications, and other applications, with different interfaces, provided by different packages, and runnable via different commands.

    • Different flavors have different graphical configuration utilities. For example, when a Lubuntu user asks a question about how to configure users, the answer should not just provide information about using the GNOME Control Center ("System Settings"). The answer should (at least) provide information about how to use the tools available in the flavor the OP is using (in this case, users-admin, i.e., System Tools > Users and Groups").

  • They are using that derivative and are not sure if it's relevant to their question. This is related to the first point, in that here it's even more important to provide these users with answers that won't necessarily fail for them due to the differences.

  • They are asking about general features of those derivatives, or whether or not those derivatives will work well on particular hardware and/or for some particular task. A question about how lightweight Xubuntu is, is not really about Xfce. Xfce factors into it, but it's the whole of Xubuntu being asked about. Similarly, questions about artwork, or support (as not all derivatives have LTS releases, for example), are questions about the derivative and not the desktop environment.

    If someone asked a question about Kubuntu's support lifecycle and tagged it , I would probably remove that tag and replace it with . I think that strongly suggests that these tags have a different meaning and should exist separately, unmerged.

On the other hand, there are all sorts of situations where either tag would do. There are probably fewer use cases where a tag like conveys information obscured by than the other way around. So if these are to be merged, I think the tags denoting the Ubuntu flavor's name (, , ) should be the master tags.

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    Valid points. I generally agree with your stance.
    – jokerdino Mod
    Jun 21, 2012 at 13:02
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    Careful with gnome2 and gnome3, we should probably keep those separate tags until gnome2-dependent releases are EOL, because gnome2 still exists in currently supported prior-releases (and Lucid).
    – Thomas Ward Mod
    Jun 21, 2012 at 13:21
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    Merging the desktop environment tags is a bad idea, becausei know people who run kde without Kubuntu, and people who run XFCE and LXDE similarly without their respective master OSes. (I do this with KDE, and I dont use Kubuntu)
    – Thomas Ward Mod
    Jun 21, 2012 at 13:22

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