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| Jan 21, 2014 at 19:13 | history | edited | Mateo | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 21, 2014 at 18:31 | comment | added | Seth | What Braiam said. | |
| Jan 21, 2014 at 12:17 | comment | added | Braiam | @EliahKagan I checked out Mateo reviews and I haven't found references to trademarks or the like. He's just saying that Ubuntu's name is used in a way users interpret that they can ask Ubuntu guys for help instead of somewhere else. And from experience most of users that ask Mint questions says "because Mint is based on Ubuntu". | |
| Jan 21, 2014 at 10:05 | comment | added | Mateo | The point was not about the "trademark", the point is I think their users are capitalizing on Ask Ubuntu's good will - maybe not intentionally, but that is the point - not some kind of legal threat... | |
| Jan 21, 2014 at 7:39 | comment | added | Eliah Kagan | @Seth No, I am not splitting hairs. This answer is (still) an accusation that the Mint project violates Ubuntu trademarks. I think it is wrong to accuse people of breaking the law without clear and compelling evidence that it is so. I consider such an accusation an act of belligerence that is harmful to the relationship between Ubuntu and Mint communities. It does not speak for me, and I don't think it speaks for our community as a whole either. Mateo has concerns about what Mint says and I have concerns about what he says; my concerns don't contain any implied legal threat. | |
| Jan 21, 2014 at 4:46 | comment | added | Seth | @EliahKagan You're really splitting hairs here now.. The point is, like Ubuntu != Debian, Mint != Ubuntu although it is closer. If we accept Mint questions we now have to deal with all Mint problems, despite the fact that we are a Ubuntu site. | |
| Jan 21, 2014 at 3:38 | comment | added | user25656 | @EliahKagan, as Mateo's answer stands now, "your disparaging view" is unwarranted. | |
| Jan 21, 2014 at 3:20 | comment | added | user25656 | I think the discussion should be widened. Here's what the Help Center has: This is not the right place for: Linux Mint, Backtrack, Gnome-Remix (prior to 13.04) and other Linux distributions (try our friends at Unix & Linux Stack Exchange). | |
| Jan 20, 2014 at 21:47 | comment | added | RobotHumans | +1 for citations... | |
| Jan 20, 2014 at 17:16 | comment | added | Eliah Kagan | But there is a different level of relationship between Ubuntu and Mint, at a technical level. It seems to me that Mint is significantly closer to Ubuntu than Ubuntu is to Debian. For example, as per your post, Mint and Ubuntu share many repositories. I think that, whether or not Mint's explanation of its relationship to Ubuntu is fully clear or ideal, it is rather silly to say Mint is actually attempting to unfairly/confusingly capitalize on Ubuntu's goodwill. It's undisputed that many Ubuntu benefits carry over to Mint, yet what Mint says is far less self-aggrandizing than even that. | |
| Jan 20, 2014 at 17:11 | comment | added | Mateo | I'm sure they would but I don't go asking debian about ubuntu issues - even though it is well established the we are based on debian - their guide suggests a different level of relationship between ubuntu and mint | |
| Jan 20, 2014 at 17:03 | history | edited | Mateo | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 20, 2014 at 17:02 | comment | added | Mateo | @EliahKagan that was a sentiment of users, many of which insist on this site about asking mint questions - not form "them" as a company - but heard many times from it's users - corrected not to be in quotes | |
| Jan 20, 2014 at 16:58 | comment | added | Eliah Kagan | I disagree with your disparaging view of the way Mint explains its relationship to Ubuntu. "Fully compatible" is subjective. Is Ubuntu 13.10 fully compatible with 12.04 LTS? Are different Ubuntu systems of the same release, installed on different computers with different packages installed and different software sources, "fully compatible"? You can install Ubuntu packages on Mint; they're about as likely to work as they are to work on Ubuntu. The truth is, searching for "ubuntu" is a valuable technique for Mint users. What does sharing repos have to do with trademark law? | |
| Jan 20, 2014 at 16:54 | history | edited | Mateo | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 20, 2014 at 16:48 | history | answered | Mateo | CC BY-SA 3.0 |