Timeline for Let's talk about the Ubuntu Code of Conduct in Ask Ubuntu!
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| Aug 1, 2022 at 19:33 | comment | added | Random Person | @Seth I wish I could speak more openly to you... but that'll lead to complicated consequences. I hope you'll get to know more details as time passes :) | |
| Jul 25, 2022 at 0:35 | comment | added | Seth | @RandomPerson ubuntu community != canonical (although they're a part of it too!). Actually, the ubuntu community has way more autonomy than any Stack site has from SE. The ubuntu community council is responsible for the CoC, not Canonical. Our own Thomas Ward is actually on the CC. I encourage you to take a look at the governance page and hang around the community to get a better idea of how it all works together :) | |
| Jul 24, 2022 at 20:33 | comment | added | Random Person | @Seth I want AU to be a independent site run by SE, not a subsidiary of Canonical. Sure, AU is a part of the larger Ubuntu community, but that does not mean we are obliged to follow whatever Canonical wants us to do. We are unique in our own ways. | |
| Jul 24, 2022 at 19:00 | comment | added | Seth | @RandomPerson As I said, you're a representative of the ubuntu community too. Signing the ubuntu CoC makes sense. Any actions you take as a moderator represent SE, AU, and ubuntu. As an AU mod I interfaced with ubuntu community managers and ubuntu forum moderators several times on different topics, and had many confused or frustrated (or even a few thankful!) users reach out to be directly about issues (one of the reasons my twitter is not in my profile anymore, not a great forum for that lol). | |
| Jul 24, 2022 at 13:09 | comment | added | Random Person | @Seth "(minor) public figure" seems to be an overstatement. I would love to say what one of my AU friends said me: "We are colleagues and friends, we are equals." It's ok to have scrutiny to become a moderator but I want it to be consistent (why should just AU moderator nominees sign additional CoC, why not all SE moderator nominees?) In the past AU and Canonical were interlinked... but now, things are changing I suppose. | |
| Jul 24, 2022 at 6:10 | comment | added | Seth | Becoming a moderator of Ask Ubuntu also makes you a member of the wider ubuntu community, you can't separate the two. It is a position of responsability. You have a lot of influence over the community here as well as access to quite a bit of user PII. Your actions reflect not just Ask Ubuntu, but Ubuntu itself too. It's also worth pointing out that you only have to link to your launchpad profile (basically just your AU profile but for all ubuntu projects), not your ubuntu one account. There's no direct link to your ubuntu one account nor any personal details that you don't have in your profile | |
| Jul 24, 2022 at 6:10 | comment | added | Seth | @RandomPerson The rest of that question seems very relevant here too. Becoming a moderator, an elected one at that, is a position of repsonsability and puts you in the community's eye. In this case, both the AU, SE, and Ubuntu communities. For lack of a better term, you become a (minor) public figure. If you don't want the small amount of scrutiny that this entails, then becoming a moderator might not be for you. | |
| Jul 16, 2022 at 19:18 | comment | added | Random Person | @terdon Also, I noticed this comment of yours: meta.askubuntu.com/posts/comments/29852 | |
| Jul 16, 2022 at 18:57 | comment | added | Random Person | @terdon I find it as an additional barrier (which is also legal). A user who wants to become an AU mod should not be compelled to create a Ubuntu One account (for which they need to accept Ubuntu One ToS, Ubuntu data privacy policy, and Canonical's SSO privacy notice). Let us not come to a conclusion that the process is "perfectly good". Also, even if the user who wants to become an AU mod has an Ubuntu One account, they should not be compelled to sign the Ubuntu CoC. Also, even if they have signed the Ubuntu CoC, they should not be forced to reveal their Ubuntu One profile details. | |
| Jul 16, 2022 at 2:55 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek | Actually - when I stood for elections years ago, agreeing to the Ubuntu COC was a prerequisite for standing. A good many if not all mods on AU as such have agreed to it. Also as a mse and SU mod, I don't have any formal standing more than any other mod. At best I advice and meddle | |
| Jul 15, 2022 at 17:22 | comment | added | terdon | @RandomPerson the point Dan is making is that AU is part of the broader Ubuntu community, even if the site itself is neither owned nor operated by Canonical and so AU moderators are in a sort of "leadership" position in the Ubuntu community which is why asking them to sign the CoC seems reasonable. It is also The Way We Have Done Things® so unless there is a problem with it, why go to the trouble of changing a perfectly good process? Do you have any reason why mods should not sign it? | |
| Jul 15, 2022 at 11:01 | comment | added | Random Person | Moderators in all SE sites have an active leadership role and non-AU moderators don't sign the Ubuntu CoC. | |
| Jul 15, 2022 at 9:33 | history | edited | Dan | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jul 15, 2022 at 9:21 | history | answered | Dan | CC BY-SA 4.0 |