Timeline for Can I ask about a problem with a non-Ubuntu kernel here?
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| Aug 24, 2017 at 12:27 | comment | added | Eliah Kagan | About the distinction between making unofficial derivatives and using an already-existing OS that isn't considered to be Ubuntu: Are questions about making “unofficial” derivatives of Ubuntu welcome? (tl;dr: Yes.) As for the possibility of AU supporting unofficial derivatives' users, I think this wouldn't usually be a good idea, but I don't see official status or branding as the only issue. On the kernel issue I think it boils down to what we already generally recognize as Ubuntu. | |
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| Jun 15, 2017 at 15:59 | comment | added | terdon Mod | @Zanna I agree that you're more likely to get help on U&L since the concentration of command line and kernel geeks there is higher. | |
| Jun 15, 2017 at 15:53 | comment | added | Zanna Mod | It's always worth questioning silly rules... I guess we have silly rules because they are easier to apply that way. Anyway I agree with the spirit of your argument I think - we shouldn't send people away because their questions are hard, and we can always suggest they might be more likely to get an answer on U&L (for example) without making new (and tricky to apply) rules about scope so we can close questions just to get them off our plates. (However, I won't be trying to inflict my hypothetical question on y'all cc @Rinzwind) | |
| Jun 15, 2017 at 14:36 | comment | added | terdon Mod | @Rinzwind why would that be off topic? Yes, if someone else has done it and released it as a distribution under a different name, it would be off topic. Which, in my opinion is absolutely ridiculous, but those are the rules of the site. However, if you take a stock Ubuntu and just change the branding, I don't know of any ruile or precedent that would make it off topic. And yes, I am well aware of how absurd this is. | |
| Jun 15, 2017 at 14:35 | comment | added | Rinzwind | @Zanna I would ask about lilo on U+L. | |
| Jun 15, 2017 at 14:34 | comment | added | Rinzwind | @terdon If I re-brand an Ubuntu that would make it off-topic. And all I changed are a bunch of images and the name. | |
| Jun 15, 2017 at 14:28 | comment | added | terdon Mod | @Zanna I don't see any other way of seeing it. We have the very simple rule that in order for your question to be on topic, you need to be running Ubuntu. Not vanilla Ubuntu, just Ubuntu. Claiming that changing the kernel changes the distribution you are using seems very strange to me. Installing an Ubuntu kernel on a Debian machine doesn't make it Ubuntu, so why would installing a non-Ubuntu kernel on an Ubuntu machine make it not Ubuntu? | |
| Jun 15, 2017 at 14:28 | comment | added | Zanna Mod | @Rinzwind but installing random-3rd-party-app in Ubuntu is surely on topic in general (we have a lot of questions about them) but maybe the kernel should be a special case, since it affects so much system behaviour | |
| Jun 15, 2017 at 14:27 | comment | added | terdon Mod | @Rinzwind so you would argue for making any piece of software that doesn't happen to be in the Ubuntu repos off topic? For one thing, that would make PPAs off topic and for another, I really don't see the point of that. It seems like too many people here try to find ways of making questions off topic instead of just trying to find ways to help the OP. | |
| Jun 15, 2017 at 14:24 | comment | added | Rinzwind | "What next, should we also make questions asking about lilo off topic because Ubuntu ships with grub by default?" If lilo is not in the repos: yes. Just my 2ct ;) | |
| Jun 15, 2017 at 14:21 | comment | added | Zanna Mod | Well, +1, but I don't think it would be implied that Ubuntu kernel + distro x = on topic... The implication is, if OS==Ubuntu && kernel==Ubuntu then Q is on-topic, not Ubuntu==Ubuntu kernel regardless of everything else | |
| Jun 15, 2017 at 14:07 | history | edited | terdonMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jun 15, 2017 at 14:02 | history | answered | terdonMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |