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Lately I notice that many link-only (or link-mainly) answers are being flagged as Very Low Quality, so I am taking to meta to ask y'all to use the Not An Answer flag for link-only answer (LOA) posts instead.

I realise that the phrase "very low quality" is incredibly vague and open to endless interpretation, but the flag called Very Low Quality is only to be used for posts which are incoherent and not salvageable by editing.

Now, it's true that most of the posts we consider Not An Answer, such as answers thanking other answers, answers that say "I have the same problem; have you solved it yet?" and so on, are not salvageable by editing.

But there is one category of Not An Answer post that is fairly likely to be salvageable by editing, and that is link-only answers. Many new users, when prompted by a comment, will go ahead and expand their answer to include details from a link, and other users might be able and willing to edit such posts into shape themselves (I do it pretty frequently). It's not always appropriate to edit link-only answers (for instance, there may be copyright issues if we reproduce material from outside sources) but quite often it is, and editing might sometimes even make them good, upvoteable answers.

Now, you may well be thinking at this point that I'm being pedantic. Who cares what the flag is called as long as the post gets the correct treatment, right? The reason I care a lot about this is that the Very Low Quality flag has a really interesting "feature", which is that any action, except deletion, that resolves such a flag cast on an answer as helpful, will automatically cast a downvote on that answer. And for some reason, editing a post flagged Very Low Quality resolves that flag as helpful (even though the flag is supposed to be raised on posts that are not salvageable by editing) (this includes when the author edits) (this isn't the case for Not An Answer flags, by the way). So on those not-infrequent occasions when I find an answer flagged Very Low Quality (link-only or not) that I want to fix by editing, I have to do one of these things to avoid it being automatically downvoted:

  • delete the post (resolves the flag as helpful), undelete it and edit it (if it was flaggable)
  • decline the flag, and then edit the post (if the answer wasn't flaggable at all in my opinion)

I don't mind doing that, but, sometimes I forget to do it and edit first and the post gets downvoted. Ugh. Or someone else edits the post first (probably the author, poor soul), and it gets downvoted. Ugh. Or another mod dismisses the flag as helpful without deleting it because, although it's relying quite heavily on a link (or for some other reason was understandably flagged) it's actually not a link-only answer* (or otherwise deleteable), and it gets downvoted. Ugh. Nothing removes those downvotes!

In conclusion, please flag link-only answers as Not An Answer (unless you can fix them yourself or the author has indicated that they will do so imminently).

Why is a link-only answer not an answer? See this Meta Stack Exchange post (ironically I'm relying totally on that link...)


*When is a link-only answer not Not An Answer, and what is a link-only answer anyway?

A link-only answer is one that is not useful at all without the link. Sometimes answers that are useful without the link(s) they contain are flagged, but should not be. For example, an answer that gives a specific, relevant recommendation, even if it's very short, and includes a link that gives a step-by-step procedure to follow that recommendation, is not a link-only answer, because it's still useful without the link. Such answers can very often be improved, of course, by adding some version of the step-by-step procedure.

There are very rare occasions when a link-only answer is an answer and should not be flagged. Sometimes, the question asks for something which cannot practically be included in the post. For example:

I need a driver for this thingy I have

There is a driver for your thingy [in this repository](URL)

Well, some installation instructions would be good, but we can't put the driver itself in the post, so this type of answer should not generally be flagged or deleted (commenting or editing or downvoting may be appropriate though).

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I get where you're coming from, and I have seen this posted in other places as well, but (and of course you won't like where I am going with this), I'll continue to flag such answers as VLQ, because:

  1. This default canned review comment is available in the VLQ review queue:

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    In fact, the very existence of this comment indicates to me that no matter what SE might say, this queue is where such posts belong. Statements and advice don't matter as much as actions, and the action of having this comment in this queue speaks much more loudly than any post you can link to.

  2. AFAIK NAA flags can only be handled by mods. Why in the name of Jeff Atwood do we specifically need mods to handle these posts when 3-6 random users in the VLQ queue can (a) use the default comment mentioned above to provide the necessary advice and (b) delete the post altogether?

This entire problem is due to SE not being consistent in what they say VLQ is for vs what they actually implement in the code for VLQ. Most of the problems you mention (including those misfeatures) can be attributed to this.


Very Low Quality is only to be used for posts which are incoherent and not salvageable by editing.

I know you are only quoting SE here, but this is BS of the highest order. Otherwise Edit wouldn't be one of the big orange buttons in the VLQ queue. It would be a dichotomy between Looks OK (== this flag is invalid) and Delete (== this flag is valid).

Ultimately, SE has made a steaming mess of the VLQ and asking users to do X or not do Y isn't going to fix a broken system.

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    The Low Quality Posts review queue gets all posts flagged as Not An Answer as well as Very Low Quality. Also (didn't realise this before I was elected), many posts go into the Low Quality Posts queue without ever being flagged at all, so there must be some automatic process other than flagging which puts them there – Zanna Dec 2 '20 at 13:15
  • Agree with your last paragraph haha I wish they would get rid of the flag entirely – Zanna Dec 2 '20 at 13:37
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    Huh, so they have been going into the same queue for years now. As that's the case I'll happily switch to NAA. All I care about is getting these into the VLQ review queue – muru Dec 2 '20 at 14:47
  • cool :) it's just the auto downvote that annoys me – Zanna Dec 2 '20 at 15:22

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