Timeline for Recommending upgrade or dist-upgrade
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| Mar 19, 2014 at 23:08 | comment | added | Braiam | @Oli well, aptitude did show you that you were about to remove bazillion package, you should have aborted or read through all of them :P | |
| Mar 18, 2014 at 1:21 | comment | added | Braiam |
@EliahKagan again, you are reading too much on my answer. 1) I didn't say what dist-upgrade do; I just said dist-upgrade is meant solely when you know that the upgrade will remove packages. If you read more than that is your problem. 2) I'm saying how I evaluate which method I will use and prefer and under what circumstances. My answer is just to guide OP that he should play safe and use upgrade/safe-upgrade, otherwise he could get packages removed unknowingly (which is my only preoccupation).
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| Mar 18, 2014 at 1:14 | comment | added | Eliah Kagan |
@Braiam In fact comments are the right place to point out inaccuracies in answers and otherwise to critique them, except when an edit would be acceptable. (Should I edit your meta answer?) The first sentence of your answer is objectively false; that is simply not the only purpose of dist-upgrade nor the only major way it differs from upgrade. If you feel meta is not an appropriate place to talk about how apt-get really works, you may wish to consider deleting your answer. Your answer consists entirely of the kind of material it seems you may be saying is inappropriate for meta.
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| Mar 18, 2014 at 1:05 | comment | added | Braiam |
@EliahKagan I don't know how you are interpreting the answer but this is not the place to discuss it. I don't use dist-upgrade unless I know before hand what packages needs to be removed. That's the extent of my answer. I prefer instead the implicit aptitude safe-upgrade since it says that my upgrade will be as safer as possible.
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| Mar 18, 2014 at 1:02 | comment | added | Eliah Kagan |
@Braiam apt-get dist-upgrade is not just for when packages need to be removed. apt-get upgrade will also not install new packages, not even packages provided as dependencies that don't conflict with anything else. (From man apt-get: "under no circumstances are currently installed packages removed, or packages not already installed retrieved and installed") For example, most kernel updates aren't installed by apt-get upgrade but are by apt-get dist-upgrade, since they're separate (version-tagged) packages, pulled in as dependencies of metapackages like linux-image-generic.
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| Mar 17, 2014 at 23:48 | comment | added | Oli Mod |
I do like the safe-upgrade definitions but aptitude itself can be pretty ferocious if you don't understand how it differs from apt-get. I'd like to say I'd only removed most of my system once with it but I'd be lying. I agree that breaking things to that level taught me a lot but what a headache.
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| Mar 17, 2014 at 15:24 | history | answered | Braiam | CC BY-SA 3.0 |