Timeline for Suggestions for revising the "on-topic" policy for programming questions
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| Feb 27, 2023 at 22:05 | comment | added | NotTheDr01ds | @andrew.46 Sorry I missed this one - I didn't get notified on it since I wasn't tagged. I think Zanna's point that we don't want to unintentionally narrow the scope too much is important, and one that we haven't fully addressed yet. I honestly took a break from thinking about this one to see if I could come back and look at it with fresh eyes to make an updated suggestion. Still not there yet, I'm afraid. | |
| Feb 21, 2023 at 2:04 | comment | added | andrew.46 Mod | @Zanna and NotTheDroids: Are we there yet? :). Looks like 250 views and a fortnight on display and certainly the addition to the 'On-Topic' page looks pretty robust IMHO... | |
| Feb 17, 2023 at 6:12 | comment | added | Zanna Mod | @NotTheDr01ds I am really sympathetic to your point and I strongly believe generic programming questions should remain off topic because this community does not have the knowledge to answer them well and such knowledge is in abundance nearby on SO, but I don't want to accidentally narrow the existing scope. What do you think of the distinction in meta.askubuntu.com/a/5750/527764 - perhaps we'll get some good wording thinking along these lines... | |
| Feb 16, 2023 at 15:23 | comment | added | NotTheDr01ds | @terdon (and by extension Zanna since it's her post) - I think Zanna's point that "It's also on topic to ask about setting up a development environment on Ubuntu" covers the Windows development on Ubuntu. That's why I like the expanded wording that clarifies that. I'm not a fan of "Development on and for Ubuntu" personally since that simply doesn't fix the original issue that any programming question (no matter how generic) can be made on-topic simply by adding "I'm using Ubuntu.". See the boat-meme discussion. | |
| Feb 15, 2023 at 12:14 | comment | added | terdon | Heh, yes, that sounds good. I seem to remember an old meta post by Oli that touched on this and clarified that yes, questions about developers who are writing software using Ubuntu as their OS are on topic, but I can't seem to find it now :/. | |
| Feb 14, 2023 at 17:33 | comment | added | Zanna Mod | Possibly I will figure out what I should do with my wrong answer, but in the meantime, jokerdino suggested the suitably expansive wording "Development on and for Ubuntu" :) | |
| Feb 14, 2023 at 17:32 | comment | added | Zanna Mod | I also found this super relevant old meta post which confirms that I am wrong, but more importantly has material for the rest of the present discussion | |
| Feb 14, 2023 at 17:32 | comment | added | Zanna Mod | @terdon considering your comment for some time, I've arrived at the conclusion that my answer above is just wrong :) I guess I understood the text this way because stuff like your example would "obviously" be on topic and most of the "development on Ubuntu" that would be on topic would just come under using 3rd party applications. So the "Development on Ubuntu" line must refer to something special. As mentioned at the start of this comment, it seems that I'm completely wrong. | |
| Feb 13, 2023 at 17:58 | comment | added | terdon | I have also always read that as meaning "developing software using Ubuntu as the OS you are developing on". Otherwise, that would have to read "developing for Ubuntu". This is the first time I've heard anyone read that phrase as meaning developing software for Ubuntu as opposed to on Ubuntu which is, after all, what is actually written. Are you saying that something like "I am developing Windows programs on Ubuntu, how can I compile them for Windows on my Ubuntu machine?" would be off topic? | |
| Feb 10, 2023 at 13:09 | comment | added | Zanna Mod | @NotTheDr01ds yes, looks good, thanks! There may be room for more discussion and/or a more expansive wording but it's getting better :) | |
| Feb 10, 2023 at 11:22 | comment | added | NotTheDr01ds | @Zanna That's excellent clarity (of course), and "Perhaps the wording of the page could make these things clearer." -- I've incorporated some of that into my proposed wording. Does that look more apropos? | |
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| Feb 10, 2023 at 10:11 | comment | added | Zanna Mod | @ArturMeinild I agree that the current wording is very ambiguous and needs improvement | |
| Feb 10, 2023 at 8:23 | comment | added | Artur Meinild | Zanna then perhaps the wording should be: "Developing software for Ubuntu." This is much more precise than "Developing on Ubuntu." Added to @NotTheDr01ds list. | |
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| Feb 10, 2023 at 5:10 | history | answered | ZannaMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |