Timeline for Why was muru's account suspended?
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| Feb 19, 2019 at 23:58 | comment | added | terdon Mod | @tudor please post a question about this, we've hijacked poor Win's answer. But site suspensions (unlike chat suspensions which is the type Win had) come with a full blown email containing the text "we have suspended your account for X days". It really isn't something you can miss easily. And the email will also explain why, as well as give you a way to argue your case (by answering the email). It is a far clearer system than you seem to think it is. And we're happy to make suspension details public if the suspended user wants to. They usually don't though, the details are rarely flattering. | |
| Feb 19, 2019 at 23:50 | comment | added | tudor -Reinstate Monica- | @terdon, I have never been suspended so I cannot speak for the message sent. But please, try this: Go to Help Center and search for "Suspension". The only mentions of it talks about "(one day or more, depending on the violation)". So there's no mention of a suspension of less than a day, which means if you are suspended and miss the message (or just read the number, like Win* clearly did) then it's easy to misinterpret 30 minutes as 30 days. IMHO, the suspension information outside the message sent needs to be easily available so as to be able to be independently verified by anyone. | |
| Feb 19, 2019 at 23:44 | comment | added | terdon Mod | Finally, @tudor, the policies are very clear. When you see a case like this, where a user has been suspended by SE staff (only they can suspend network-wide) you can assume the user broke the rules in a very clear and flagrant way. And you can also assume the user has been told exactly why. This isn't something that can happen by accident, this is the nuclear option. | |
| Feb 19, 2019 at 23:41 | comment | added | terdon Mod | @tudor I have no idea how or why Win would have thought so. All he had to do was ask one of us or even just try and chat to see it wasn't the case. I don't see how the fact that one user made a mistake is evidence of anything at all. It was just a misunderstanding. And, I stress, mods always explain when giving site suspensions. It isn't even possible to suspend (from the site, not chat) without contacting the user. The UI doesn't allow it. | |
| Feb 19, 2019 at 23:35 | comment | added | tudor -Reinstate Monica- | @terdon, thanks for the explanation. I think this is evidence that there needs to be greater transparency in the policies, however. WinEunuuchs2Unix clearly believed it was a 30-day suspension without explanation and the fact that he accepted that is a pretty significant lack of confidence in the system, IMHO. | |
| Feb 19, 2019 at 12:17 | comment | added | terdon Mod | @tudor please see updated answer. Mods always give a reason for suspension. In this case, the chat suspension that Win is remembering was automatically applied by the system because a comment was flagged in chat. So that wasn't a mod-issued suspension and that's why there was no explanation. When a user is suspended from a site by a moderator, there is always an email sent explaining why that happened. | |
| Feb 19, 2019 at 11:22 | comment | added | terdon Mod | And thank you for clearing our name! :) | |
| Feb 19, 2019 at 11:22 | comment | added | WinEunuuchs2Unix | @terdon I changed 30 days to 30 minutes.I probably read the screen to quickly when the suspension occured. Thanks for looking into history. | |
| Feb 19, 2019 at 11:18 | history | edited | WinEunuuchs2Unix | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Change 30 days to 30 minutes.
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| Feb 19, 2019 at 8:42 | comment | added | terdon Mod | Moderators do not go around suspending people without explanation! You have been suspended from chat two times, both of them for only 30 minutes. Also, both of these suspensions were automatic: people flagged something you said as offensive and the flag was validated by one of the hundreds of mods on the SE network (chat flags go to everyone) which causes an automatic suspension of 30 minutes. I don't know why you thought it was for 30 days. But please edit your question and remove the pretty serious accusation you've made. We did not give you a 30-day suspension with no explanation! | |
| Feb 18, 2019 at 23:02 | comment | added | WinEunuuchs2Unix | @Seth I really can't explain what happened then. I would call out Paranoid Panada for more information but I can't find his user ID in search. The main tenants stand though: I was banned (or thought I was) for 30 days and this led me to review my conduct in General Chat room and avoid mainstream news debates. | |
| Feb 17, 2019 at 18:35 | comment | added | Seth Mod | @WinEunuuchs2Unix That's not how chat suspensions work. You're either banned from all of chat or you're not banned at all. It's possible you were kicked, whereupon you would be temp banned from one room for 30 seconds to 5 minutes (it increases per kick), but that's it. | |
| Feb 16, 2019 at 20:58 | comment | added | WinEunuuchs2Unix | @Seth I wasn't suspended from chat as I could setup chatrooms during that period. Just the Ask Ubuntu General Chatroom. ParanoidPanda posted comments about it but I can't remember where or when. | |
| Feb 16, 2019 at 20:33 | comment | added | Seth Mod | Actually, looking into it, you've never been suspended in chat for 30 days, nor on the main site. So I really have no idea what you're referring to here. | |
| Feb 16, 2019 at 20:31 | comment | added | Seth Mod | The user is always offered an explanation for a suspension. I'll be honest I'm a bit suspicious when you say that you were never told why, but I suppose it's possible. I can't recall this incident off the top of my head but I'm more than willing to look it up if you want. | |
| Feb 13, 2019 at 0:21 | comment | added | tudor -Reinstate Monica- | There's always a linchpin in any group. ;-) | |
| Feb 13, 2019 at 0:18 | comment | added | WinEunuuchs2Unix | @tudor In General Chat Room there used to be many of us gathering most nights and chatting about everything under the sun. Since my suspension I've noticed the atmosphere has changed and not many people drop by like before. Perhaps others became scared by my suspension? Anyway it's just a general chatroom and not missing much. | |
| Feb 12, 2019 at 3:40 | comment | added | tudor -Reinstate Monica- | That's interesting. We have Oli saying he was "Stepping through the incident", and here they don't provide you with a reason at all? I understand that not providing a specific reason reduces the possible retaliatory responses, but surely a generic reason (i.e. which policy or rule) should be supplied as part of the act of suspension purely so that the person can know roughly what to avoid in future! | |
| Feb 11, 2019 at 3:52 | history | answered | WinEunuuchs2Unix | CC BY-SA 4.0 |