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Feb 6, 2019 at 19:55 comment added Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy @terdon I've made an edit to my question, putting key points at the top. Feel free to suggest edits or improvements or how to shortenify things.
Feb 6, 2019 at 15:56 comment added terdon Mod I am not disagreeing, but I have been trying to convince people that no, you are not trying to alter the scope of the site, so I am letting you know you might want to clarify. And reducing the length of this by 50% or more would be a great help.
Feb 6, 2019 at 15:54 comment added Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy @terdon So instead of "Yay" or "Nay" I'm saying "Here's how we can figure this out". I even put it in bold in my question the word compromise. And all the while people take the whole situation way too seriously
Feb 6, 2019 at 15:52 comment added Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy @terdon Hahah, nope. I've said in the question introduction I seek compromise. I've noticed those who are pro-keeping say "question applies to Ubuntu" without formal reasoning, and those con-keeping "it requires knowing if question applies to Ubuntu" based on maximalist ideas and "this site has Ubuntu in name" phrase. So I made clear list which both parties can use and agree "yep, this can stay" or "nope, kick it out". As for site scope, well that's what certain people unfortunately fixated on and keep saying, but I definitely did not say "let's change what we deal with on AU".
Feb 6, 2019 at 15:43 comment added terdon Mod Well, everyone seems to think you are suggesting we alter the site's scope...
Feb 6, 2019 at 15:34 comment added Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy @terdon Lol, no. All I'm saying is this: those who are against editing posts that are applicable to the site often say it requires being an expert in other OS. OK, so I made a checklist that doesn't require that - all you have to have is Ubuntu tools, which just happen to be those that are also used on other distros. Of course my argument is wrapped into a formal proposal, but that's the short thesis I'm making. And also addressed logical fallacies here and there, and "administering and using Ubuntu" part, which is similar in other distros.
Feb 6, 2019 at 11:23 comment added terdon Mod @SergiyKolodyazhnyy you aren't actually suggesting we change the site's scope, are you? (I am afraid it really is kind of hard to know what you really are suggesting with all of the various points you touch on).
Feb 5, 2019 at 22:37 comment added Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy @dessert 1) CoC part relates to how recent question has been handled, view of senior members who are proponents of editing questions to keep them on site, and rare cases where comments devolve into terse arguments on such questions 2) No, we cannot embrace Windows questions because its userspace is different, directory tree is different, and no common utilities. By contrast, Linux distros have GNU coreutils and POSIX standard to rely on for commonality, and is the same within Ubuntu context. But we do have tag [windows] with 1288 posts at this time and its still within Ubuntu context :)
Feb 5, 2019 at 22:09 comment added dessert Is the “Code of Conduct” section anyhow related to your proposal? It sounds like you think that by closing off-topic questions as off topic we’re not welcoming and thus violate the CoC – if that’s true that’s a separate issue and should be asked separately. Note that one could easily open a discussion about embracing Windows questions on AU and use your unchanged “Code of Conduct” section as an argument how we are mobbing Windows users here: Folks, let’s really “foster collaboration between groups with very different needs, interests and skills”…
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