Timeline for What to do with stolen answers?
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| Nov 18, 2015 at 0:07 | comment | added | Jorge Castro | Why downvote the "stolen" answer or paste in that long response when you could just add the attribution to the answer? | |
| Nov 14, 2015 at 16:42 | comment | added | Tobias | I don't see any of the comments explaining the need to downvote, but it's part of the answer. The only example is Fabby's last comment. Would someone care to explain why it is necessary to downvote the 'stolen' answer, making it less visible? And please not a 'Because ... - but I wouldn't do it myself' answer. | |
| Nov 14, 2015 at 9:59 | history | edited | Fabby | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Nov 14, 2015 at 9:56 | comment | added | Fabby | Additional comment: If I find an answer where someone clearly states that the answer IS stolen, I'll downvote the stolen answer and upvote the "original" regardless of acceptance. | |
| Nov 14, 2015 at 9:55 | comment | added | Fabby | @JacobVlijm CC -----^ | |
| Nov 14, 2015 at 9:51 | comment | added | Fabby | @Tobias: What I do is leave a comment to the original poster of the comment: "Could you convert that to an answer so that I can upvote it or another comment if you're not interested in posting one and I'll do it for you" (some people being very busy sometimes) If after 24 hours you get no response: feel free to steal the comment and convert it to an answer. If the poster then comes back and complains, leave another comment that you'll delete your answer after the original commenter has answered regardless of the upvotes you've received... | |
| Nov 13, 2015 at 14:17 | comment | added | Tobias | @JacobVlijm surely the contribution is in making it visible. It's a contribution as much as editing the formatting of an answer to make it easier to read. So long the commenter didn't post it as an answer, the answer isn't there as far as people reading the question are concerned - adding it as an answer is a contribution, no matter who does it. 'Punishing' such acts are not beneficial to the site or the community. This is my reasoning for downvoting this answer. | |
| Nov 13, 2015 at 14:10 | comment | added | Jacob Vlijm | @Tobias Usually not the revenge kind of person, but I think the discussion is more on whether copy- paste existing comments as an answer is a useful thing or not, when it is clear the poster of the comment is planning on creating an answer after having gathered enough information, yes, via comments. I don' t see any other contribution in it but the contribution of the poster to himself. I think however we' re getting in a loop here. | |
| Nov 13, 2015 at 12:36 | comment | added | Tobias | @JacobVlijm The reputation system is a great motivational factor. There can be other motivational factors too. But so long the purpose of this site is to share our knowledge, and posting answers to questions is the best way to do that - people's motivations for answering are not of any relevance, and any valid answer should be viewed as a contribution. With that in mind, how would starting a discussion about the so called 'theft' (and perhaps even downvoting) do any good to the site? It would only help to satisfy some arbitrary need for 'revenge' for this person. | |
| Nov 13, 2015 at 12:32 | comment | added | Jacob Vlijm | @Tobias personally, I wouldn't downvote an answer if it is a good one, for the sake of the answer. To state who's name is below an answer doesn't matter at all is hypocrite. It at least plays a role in the motivation to create good answers. Actually, the whole reputation system is based on it, be it in a more indirect and abstractive way. I am pretty sure making answering completely anonymus would make the site die away in a week. Also, I am referring to situations an answer was being prepared, but someone jumps in, knowing a (the) answer was ready to be posted. | |
| Nov 13, 2015 at 11:09 | comment | added | Tobias | @JacobVlijm How can the reasoning or thought behind someone's answer be of relevance at all to anyone reading the answer or the site? Why would you downvote the answer if I'd read it in the comment section, but not if I'd read it on Google? Does it really matter who gets their name on the answer? Any valid answer should be better than no answer. | |
| Nov 13, 2015 at 10:57 | comment | added | Jacob Vlijm | @Tobias if your answer and the comment were about the same time, I don' t see how your answer can be a "stolen answer" at all. If your answer was "invented" by you, it is irrelevant if it is (already) in a comment. I am referring to situations in which people obviously spend a considerable time to a) get the question clear and b) obviously are working on, or finishing a good answer. It definitely happens (luckily not a lot) that someone jumps in then, posting an answer he or she couldn't have produced without the work of the commenter. | |
| Nov 13, 2015 at 10:43 | comment | added | Tobias | @JacobVlijm in this case I was writing my answer as the comments appeared. In fact, I even believe the first version of my answer was 'Just remove the dot'. But is this not the exact situation described in the question? The correct answer is in the comments, and he's been asked to convert it to an answer. Even if I had posted my answer two hours later, seeing the comments first, I don't see how what I'm doing doesn't benefit the person asking the question and the community as a whole. How can that be worthy a downvote? | |
| Nov 13, 2015 at 10:36 | comment | added | Jacob Vlijm | @Tobias it depends on the situation. I am not sure about the order and timing of things, but clearly, not much work is involved in your link, the comment could easily have been posted as an answer immediately and the commenter was asked to convert his comment into an answer. Quite a different situation. | |
| Nov 13, 2015 at 10:28 | comment | added | Tobias | I'm not really like the word 'stealing' here, but I 'stole' an answer from the comment field yesterday and posted it as an answer. How is this a 'bad' thing for anyone involved? It allows the person who asked the question to select an answer for other people to see, perhaps the answer even expands on the original comment, and the person who made the comment, can even edit the answer to fit. Why does it matter that I 'posted' it as an answer? askubuntu.com/questions/696846/… | |
| Nov 13, 2015 at 9:12 | history | edited | hg8 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Nov 12, 2015 at 23:41 | comment | added | Jacob Vlijm | @Seth I must say, in many cases, indeed comments are needed to make sure the (upcoming) answer actually fits the question. It definitely happens that people jump in and post the answer when the "dirty" work is done. Actually stealing the answer before the real answerer had a reasonable time to come to a conclusive answer. IMO not good for the site, not good for the atmosphere and not good for the quality of an answer. It provokes people to post premature answers. | |
| Nov 12, 2015 at 22:13 | comment | added | Fabby | I disagree: For difficult/complex questions I use the comment section to do investigations and when I have a final answer, I'll post it. | |
| Nov 12, 2015 at 21:52 | history | edited | SethMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Nov 12, 2015 at 21:51 | comment | added | Seth Mod | This is not the correct answer. muru's answer is correct. If someone else posts it as an answer oh well. It's not particularly nice, but the commenter made the conscious decision not to post it in the answer section where it belongs. If someone else does it.. their loss. We need answers in the answers section! And in my experience only about half of commenters ever come back to do it properly. Someone needs to do it. | |
| Nov 12, 2015 at 21:26 | comment | added | kos | @muru, Fabby, folks, there you go. I officially retire from being the scapegoat to bash! | |
| Nov 12, 2015 at 21:25 | history | rollback | kos |
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| Nov 12, 2015 at 21:10 | comment | added | muru | @kos moo! Moo! Moo! | |
| Nov 12, 2015 at 20:54 | comment | added | kos | @ParanoidPanda, Fabby, come on guys, you know that it couldn't stay there, and that if not me it would have been someone with a hammer. Someone had to make the unpopular decision and have the herd on them. | |
| Nov 12, 2015 at 20:42 | comment | added | Fabby | Yeah, for once I agree with ParanoidPanda @Kos! | |
| Nov 12, 2015 at 16:54 | comment | added | user364819 | Aww... @kos edited this answer and made is more boring... :( :P | |
| Nov 12, 2015 at 9:47 | history | edited | kos | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Nov 12, 2015 at 6:50 | comment | added | Neil |
lol downvote the shit out of it that made me smile.
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| Nov 11, 2015 at 20:11 | history | answered | Fabby | CC BY-SA 3.0 |