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Specificity is only useful to a point, and in this case the tag doesn't appear to be overwhelmed with questions; the site could easily get by without an tag. In summary I see the point in having an tag, I would be happy to see it stay, but as a subcategory of networking it is expendable. While I am not for it's removal I would understand if it were.


EDIT 1:

There are several comments discussing 3 postings as examples of using the tag, if they should actually be tagged this way, and if merging such questions into the tag makes any sense. "Are they actually about networking?", being the argument. Rather than reply to all these comments individually I think it might be more effective to simply share my thoughts through an edit.

Is The Internet Tag Suitable For These Questions?:

Question 1:

Lets set aside what this question is currently tagged as; what could I tag it as? Well firstly we're dealing with a user-network application (an application that uses a network) specifically Mozilla Firefox so the tag could be used. The question doesn't state internet usage is involved, but the OP did have it tagged with so we can assume Mozilla Firefox will be used online. Remember web browsers while commonly used for internet sites they not restricted to such, and can just as easily be used for intranet sites. A web browser is a viewer for served documents/applications so some form of networking is required. Since the OP seems to be intending internet usage the tag would work. As mentioned before this question is about Mozilla Firefox so the tag would make sense. This question could be tagged . In this case is the primary tag with and as sub-category tags. Keep in mind of course that there are a mass of available tags which means it is often possible to effectively tag a question in more than one way. There is also tag limit, and even within that limit it possible to over-tag a post (or as I like to call it "tagging-to-death"). In this question the usage of one or both the tag and tag works. Would the post work without them? Yes. In this case the question is about Mozilla Firefox, and the tag works nicely as either a sub-category tag, or a primary tag. Due to this another effective way of tagging the question would be to use tag as the primary tag, and then tag. Keep in mind that tag also works nicely as a sub-category of other tags like . I feel this question is an acceptable example of using the tag. Some ways I could see tagging this question:

Question 2:

What could I tag this as? Well we're dealing with Apt so the tag is a good fit. Apt is a program for retrieving and installing Debian software packages. This question is a great example of the use of the tag because Apt doesn't require an internet connection, or even a network connection. You can use it with local repositories that don't involve networking at all. So you could simply tag this with and leave it at that especially if you're only dealing with a local repository. However in this question the user has specified they will be using online repositories so both the and tags work very well here. However as mentioned before there is a mass of available tags, and it is possible to effectively tag a question in more than one way. It's also possible to over-tag a post. In this question the OP is getting internet via a mobile ISP provider so the tag could also be helpful. I can see there are a few different ways to effectively tag this question:

Question 3:

For now lets set aside for a moment that this question is about Mozilla Firefox and Chromium, and just pretend it's about Mozilla Firefox. As before this means tags ,, and would all work, but of course that isn't the only way to tag the question. Now this question is about a sub-topic of Mozilla Firefox; privacy, it's also about Chromium, and the basic principles will apply to almost all browsers. This question therefore makes a good example of a one that could tagged with and , but might be more effective tagged as something else, because it has so many other more specific tags that can be used for it. Since it discusses two browsers their tags would be a good start. The following seem to be good fits, but because the OP mentions 2 specific applications the first would be more ideal:

What Are My Thoughts On All Of This?:

I think that all 3 questions work fine with the tag, this doesn't mean they need to be tagged with it, or that their aren't other tags which would work. In some cases other tags may even work better. As far as merging the questions currently tagged into I see no problem; they are networking related. The reason these questions seem to be the topic of debate is because they are about user-network applications (an application that uses a network), rather than administrative-network applications (an application that manages, secures, or provides information about a network). As well as because of how tag is currently described. If a merge does occur I think some manual re-tagging is a good idea, because some questions have better tags available.


 

 

 

 

Specificity is only useful to a point, and in this case the tag doesn't appear to be overwhelmed with questions; the site could easily get by without an tag. In summary I see the point in having an tag, I would be happy to see it stay, but as a subcategory of networking it is expendable. While I am not for it's removal I would understand if it were.

Specificity is only useful to a point, and in this case the tag doesn't appear to be overwhelmed with questions; the site could easily get by without an tag. In summary I see the point in having an tag, I would be happy to see it stay, but as a subcategory of networking it is expendable. While I am not for it's removal I would understand if it were.


EDIT 1:

There are several comments discussing 3 postings as examples of using the tag, if they should actually be tagged this way, and if merging such questions into the tag makes any sense. "Are they actually about networking?", being the argument. Rather than reply to all these comments individually I think it might be more effective to simply share my thoughts through an edit.

Is The Internet Tag Suitable For These Questions?:

Question 1:

Lets set aside what this question is currently tagged as; what could I tag it as? Well firstly we're dealing with a user-network application (an application that uses a network) specifically Mozilla Firefox so the tag could be used. The question doesn't state internet usage is involved, but the OP did have it tagged with so we can assume Mozilla Firefox will be used online. Remember web browsers while commonly used for internet sites they not restricted to such, and can just as easily be used for intranet sites. A web browser is a viewer for served documents/applications so some form of networking is required. Since the OP seems to be intending internet usage the tag would work. As mentioned before this question is about Mozilla Firefox so the tag would make sense. This question could be tagged . In this case is the primary tag with and as sub-category tags. Keep in mind of course that there are a mass of available tags which means it is often possible to effectively tag a question in more than one way. There is also tag limit, and even within that limit it possible to over-tag a post (or as I like to call it "tagging-to-death"). In this question the usage of one or both the tag and tag works. Would the post work without them? Yes. In this case the question is about Mozilla Firefox, and the tag works nicely as either a sub-category tag, or a primary tag. Due to this another effective way of tagging the question would be to use tag as the primary tag, and then tag. Keep in mind that tag also works nicely as a sub-category of other tags like . I feel this question is an acceptable example of using the tag. Some ways I could see tagging this question:

Question 2:

What could I tag this as? Well we're dealing with Apt so the tag is a good fit. Apt is a program for retrieving and installing Debian software packages. This question is a great example of the use of the tag because Apt doesn't require an internet connection, or even a network connection. You can use it with local repositories that don't involve networking at all. So you could simply tag this with and leave it at that especially if you're only dealing with a local repository. However in this question the user has specified they will be using online repositories so both the and tags work very well here. However as mentioned before there is a mass of available tags, and it is possible to effectively tag a question in more than one way. It's also possible to over-tag a post. In this question the OP is getting internet via a mobile ISP provider so the tag could also be helpful. I can see there are a few different ways to effectively tag this question:

Question 3:

For now lets set aside for a moment that this question is about Mozilla Firefox and Chromium, and just pretend it's about Mozilla Firefox. As before this means tags ,, and would all work, but of course that isn't the only way to tag the question. Now this question is about a sub-topic of Mozilla Firefox; privacy, it's also about Chromium, and the basic principles will apply to almost all browsers. This question therefore makes a good example of a one that could tagged with and , but might be more effective tagged as something else, because it has so many other more specific tags that can be used for it. Since it discusses two browsers their tags would be a good start. The following seem to be good fits, but because the OP mentions 2 specific applications the first would be more ideal:

What Are My Thoughts On All Of This?:

I think that all 3 questions work fine with the tag, this doesn't mean they need to be tagged with it, or that their aren't other tags which would work. In some cases other tags may even work better. As far as merging the questions currently tagged into I see no problem; they are networking related. The reason these questions seem to be the topic of debate is because they are about user-network applications (an application that uses a network), rather than administrative-network applications (an application that manages, secures, or provides information about a network). As well as because of how tag is currently described. If a merge does occur I think some manual re-tagging is a good idea, because some questions have better tags available.

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Allow me to think out loud for a minute. You may want to just skip to the end...

Tag Descriptions:

Networking:

This tag is for any home networks, server clouds, internet problems, repository
issues or server administration.

Internet:

Questions about connecting to the Internet.

Wireless:

Questions about using wireless connections in Ubuntu.

How Would They Be Used?:

Still thinking out loud. The tag to me means exactly what it says; networking. The tag is more specific saying it's not just about networking it's about the worlds biggest most famous network the internet. There is also a tag to specify that a connection involves a wireless signal.

So a question tagged could be about setting up a home network setup, a question tagged and might be about getting internet access available over that home network, and a question tagged , , and might be about setting up a home wifi network that will provide internet access.


How Are They Being Used?:

The next thing to factor in is how are they being used now.

First 3 Questions From Internet:

First 3 Questions From Networking:

First 3 Questions From Wireless:

So it looks like they are being used okay. The tag has 1,378 questions, the has tag 6,131 questions, and the tag has 5,698 questions. To me this suggests they are all used enough to earn their keep.


What Do The Words Really Mean?

I think it's important to keep in mind what networking really means. It refers to the connection of 2 or more devices in a communicative manner. Here on Askubuntu that connection must be Ubuntu relevant, and follow the restrictions imposed by the tag, which tend to be more computer-networking (linking of computers). The same goes for wireless which if you read the tag's detailed description tells you it's not just for computer-networking (linking of computers) it's for any Ubuntu related use of a wireless signal including keyboards, and mice. Lastly the internet which is a specific global computer network.


My 2 Cents:

Specificity is only useful to a point, and in this case the tag doesn't appear to be overwhelmed with questions; the site could easily get by without an tag. In summary I see the point in having an tag, I would be happy to see it stay, but as a subcategory of networking it is expendable. While I am not for it's removal I would understand if it were.