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I'm not yet convinced. I'm familiar with what each of the three terms mean but I'm struggling to see why they should all exist as separate tags here.

  • What does shell (or cli-shell shudder) add that command-line doesn't already cover?
  • If it adds anything, wouldn't the actual shell tags add even more? (eg: bash, ksh, zsh, etc)
  • And why does terminal need its own tag at all? It's used synonymously with command-line by a very many people. It's possible the most worthwhile synonym we have in the system.

They're all pretty generic and they overlap huge amounts. I think in their case it's much more useful to have one tag to describe that we're talking about the command line and anything else be specific to the problem.


And to agree with Marco, "shell" is and has been super-generic term for "interface" for a very long time. I'll concede it's more popularly talked about when describing the command line these days... But that's not its only use.

It's not a meta-tag And (at least within the realms of English), but it is something that's both too vague and too generic, that already has a tag that covers it, and has other tags that mean things within its scope that would better describethat's the problem with shell/terminal/command-line.

I don't disagree with Gilles's 2010 opinion (the three words all technically mean disparate things), but people don't use tags based on their dictionary definitions, they use them based on how they use those wordsthey've always used them. And in the real world, terminal, shell, cli and command-line all mean roughly the same thing. Like it or not, they are synonymous to most of our users.

Therefore toTo separate these three out means one thing for the future of posts about the command line: really crappy tagging. Some posts will be terminal, some will be command-line and shell... It's just generating a metric butt-tonne of review. At least thiswith the way things are, we have one tag that covers all of that and people can add detail through further, more specific tags.

I'm not yet convinced. I'm familiar with what each of the three terms mean but I'm struggling to see why they should all exist as separate tags here.

  • What does shell (or cli-shell shudder) add that command-line doesn't already cover?
  • If it adds anything, wouldn't the actual shell tags add even more? (eg: bash, ksh, zsh, etc)
  • And why does terminal need its own tag at all? It's used synonymously with command-line by a very many people. It's possible the most worthwhile synonym we have in the system.

They're all pretty generic and they overlap huge amounts. I think in their case it's much more useful to have one tag to describe that we're talking about the command line and anything else be specific to the problem.


And to agree with Marco, "shell" is and has been super-generic term for "interface" for a very long time. I'll concede it's more popularly talked about when describing the command line these days... But that's not its only use.

It's not a meta-tag (at least within the realms of English), but it is something that's both too vague and too generic, that already has a tag that covers it, and has other tags that mean things within its scope that would better describe the problem.

I don't disagree with Gilles's 2010 opinion, but people don't use tags based on their dictionary definitions, they use them based on how they use those words. And in the real world, terminal, shell, cli and command-line all mean roughly the same thing. Like it or not, they are synonymous to most of our users.

Therefore to separate these three out means one thing for the future of posts about the command line: really crappy tagging. At least this way we have one tag that covers all of that and people can add detail through further, more specific tags.

I'm not yet convinced. I'm familiar with what each of the three terms mean but I'm struggling to see why they should all exist as separate tags here.

  • What does shell (or cli-shell shudder) add that command-line doesn't already cover?
  • If it adds anything, wouldn't the actual shell tags add even more? (eg: bash, ksh, zsh, etc)
  • And why does terminal need its own tag at all? It's used synonymously with command-line by a very many people. It's possible the most worthwhile synonym we have in the system.

They're all pretty generic and they overlap huge amounts. I think in their case it's much more useful to have one tag to describe that we're talking about the command line and anything else be specific to the problem.


And to agree with Marco, "shell" is and has been super-generic term for "interface" for a very long time. I'll concede it's more popularly talked about when describing the command line these days... But that's not its only use. And that's the problem with shell/terminal/command-line.

I don't disagree with Gilles's 2010 opinion (the three words all technically mean disparate things), but people don't use tags based on their dictionary definitions, they use them how they've always used them. And in the real world, terminal, shell, cli and command-line all mean roughly the same thing. Like it or not, they are synonymous to most of our users.

To separate these three out means one thing for the future of posts about the command line: really crappy tagging. Some posts will be terminal, some will be command-line and shell... It's just generating a metric butt-tonne of review. At least with the way things are, we have one tag that covers all of that and people can add detail through further, more specific tags.

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I'm not yet convinced. I'm familiar with what each of the three terms mean but I'm struggling to see why they should all exist as separate tags here.

  • What does shell (or cli-shell shudder) add that command-line doesn't already cover?
  • If it adds anything, wouldn't the actual shell tags add even more? (eg: bash, ksh, zsh, etc)
  • And why does terminal need its own tag at all? It's used synonymously with command-line by a very many people. It's possible the most worthwhile synonym we have in the system.

They're all pretty generic and they overlap huge amounts. I think in their case it's much more useful to have one tag to describe that we're talking about the command line and anything else be specific to the problem.


And to agree with Marco, "shell" is and has been super-generic term for "interface" for a very long time. I'll concede it's more popularly talked about when describing the command line these days... But that's not its only use.

It's not a meta-tag (at least within the realms of English), but it is something that's both too vague and too generic, that already has a tag that covers it, and has other tags that mean things within its scope that would better describe the problem.

Separating all three out would leave usI don't disagree with threeGilles's 2010 opinion, but people don't use tags thatbased on their dictionary definitions, they use them based on how they use those words. And in the real world, terminal, shell, cli and command-line all mean roughly (not exactly)roughly the same thing. Which were appliedLike it or not, they are synonymous to questions would be a real lucky dip because people do use the three terms synonymouslymost of our users. Keeping the synonyms

Therefore to separate these three out means people are forced (or atone thing for the future of posts about the command line: really crappy tagging. At least more likely) to pick betterthis way we have one tag that covers all of that and people can add detail through further, more specific tags.

I'm not yet convinced. I'm familiar with what each of the three terms mean but I'm struggling to see why they should all exist as separate tags here.

  • What does shell (or cli-shell shudder) add that command-line doesn't already cover?
  • If it adds anything, wouldn't the actual shell tags add even more? (eg: bash, ksh, zsh, etc)
  • And why does terminal need its own tag at all? It's used synonymously with command-line by a very many people. It's possible the most worthwhile synonym we have in the system.

They're all pretty generic and they overlap huge amounts. I think in their case it's much more useful to have one tag to describe that we're talking about the command line and anything else be specific to the problem.


And to agree with Marco, "shell" is and has been super-generic term for "interface" for a very long time. I'll concede it's more popularly talked about when describing the command line these days... But that's not its only use.

It's not a meta-tag (at least within the realms of English), but it is something that's both too vague and too generic, that already has a tag that covers it, and has other tags that mean things within its scope that would better describe the problem.

Separating all three out would leave us with three tags that mean roughly (not exactly) the same thing. Which were applied to questions would be a real lucky dip because people do use the three terms synonymously. Keeping the synonyms means people are forced (or at least more likely) to pick better, more specific tags.

I'm not yet convinced. I'm familiar with what each of the three terms mean but I'm struggling to see why they should all exist as separate tags here.

  • What does shell (or cli-shell shudder) add that command-line doesn't already cover?
  • If it adds anything, wouldn't the actual shell tags add even more? (eg: bash, ksh, zsh, etc)
  • And why does terminal need its own tag at all? It's used synonymously with command-line by a very many people. It's possible the most worthwhile synonym we have in the system.

They're all pretty generic and they overlap huge amounts. I think in their case it's much more useful to have one tag to describe that we're talking about the command line and anything else be specific to the problem.


And to agree with Marco, "shell" is and has been super-generic term for "interface" for a very long time. I'll concede it's more popularly talked about when describing the command line these days... But that's not its only use.

It's not a meta-tag (at least within the realms of English), but it is something that's both too vague and too generic, that already has a tag that covers it, and has other tags that mean things within its scope that would better describe the problem.

I don't disagree with Gilles's 2010 opinion, but people don't use tags based on their dictionary definitions, they use them based on how they use those words. And in the real world, terminal, shell, cli and command-line all mean roughly the same thing. Like it or not, they are synonymous to most of our users.

Therefore to separate these three out means one thing for the future of posts about the command line: really crappy tagging. At least this way we have one tag that covers all of that and people can add detail through further, more specific tags.

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I'm not yet convinced. I'm familiar with what each of the three terms mean but I'm struggling to see why they should all exist as separate tags here.

  • What does shell (or cli-shell shudder) add that command-line doesn't already cover?
  • If it adds anything, wouldn't the actual shell tags add even more? (eg: bash, ksh, zsh, etc)
  • And why does terminal need its own tag at all? It's used synonymously with command-line by a very many people. It's possible the most worthwhile synonym we have in the system.

They're all pretty generic and they overlap huge amounts. I think in their case it's much more useful to have one tag to describe that we're talking about the command line and anything else be specific to the problem.


And to agree with Marco, "shell" is and has been super-generic term for "interface" for a very long time. I'll concede it's more popularly talked about when describing the command line these days... But that's not its only use.

It's not a meta-tag (at least within the realms of English), but it is something that's both too vague and too generic, that already has a tag that covers it, and has other tags that mean things within its scope that would better describe the problem.

Separating all three out would leave us with three tags that mean roughly (not exactly) the same thing. Which were applied to questions would be a real lucky dip because people do use the three terms synonymously. Keeping the synonyms means people are forced (or at least more likely) to pick better, more specific tags.

I'm not yet convinced. I'm familiar with what each of the three terms mean but I'm struggling to see why they should all exist as separate tags here.

  • What does shell (or cli-shell shudder) add that command-line doesn't already cover?
  • If it adds anything, wouldn't the actual shell tags add even more? (eg: bash, ksh, zsh, etc)
  • And why does terminal need its own tag at all? It's used synonymously with command-line by a very many people. It's possible the most worthwhile synonym we have in the system.

They're all pretty generic and they overlap huge amounts. I think in their case it's much more useful to have one tag to describe that we're talking about the command line and anything else be specific to the problem.


And to agree with Marco, "shell" is and has been super-generic term for "interface" for a very long time. I'll concede it's more popularly talked about when describing the command line these days... But that's not its only use.

I'm not yet convinced. I'm familiar with what each of the three terms mean but I'm struggling to see why they should all exist as separate tags here.

  • What does shell (or cli-shell shudder) add that command-line doesn't already cover?
  • If it adds anything, wouldn't the actual shell tags add even more? (eg: bash, ksh, zsh, etc)
  • And why does terminal need its own tag at all? It's used synonymously with command-line by a very many people. It's possible the most worthwhile synonym we have in the system.

They're all pretty generic and they overlap huge amounts. I think in their case it's much more useful to have one tag to describe that we're talking about the command line and anything else be specific to the problem.


And to agree with Marco, "shell" is and has been super-generic term for "interface" for a very long time. I'll concede it's more popularly talked about when describing the command line these days... But that's not its only use.

It's not a meta-tag (at least within the realms of English), but it is something that's both too vague and too generic, that already has a tag that covers it, and has other tags that mean things within its scope that would better describe the problem.

Separating all three out would leave us with three tags that mean roughly (not exactly) the same thing. Which were applied to questions would be a real lucky dip because people do use the three terms synonymously. Keeping the synonyms means people are forced (or at least more likely) to pick better, more specific tags.

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