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… is that really the best way to prevent spam on a site?

I'm afraid it is, yes.

I understand the frustration and it can feel pretty backwards when it's getting between you and doing something good, but as somebody who has seen systems without these checks in place, the level of spam we're talking about stopping is almost unimaginable.

To better understand, you'dYou also need to understand that this site runs on the time and sweat of its community. This is a very finite resource and we need to spend it carefully.

  • Questions and answers from new users are manually reviewed by 3-5 people
  • These (and other reviews) generate flags that also get reviewed.
  • Flagged issues also go can go up to one of a handful of moderators
  • We ask users to edit and improve any post they can
  • As well as voting, to help distinguish better questions and answers.
  • And that's all before using their expertise to actually help people with their problems. Reviewers get to be reviewers by having reputation.

On a question and answer site, comments are merely an occasionally necessaryoccasional-but-necessary evil, a lubricant to help questions and answers get better. But given we're already splitting our users time between answering questions and fixing bad ones, reviewing what would-be thousands of comments —many of them "thanks" and "+1", and even more flagrant spam— I think keeping some focus on the questions and answers isn't a bad thing.

You can see more about privileges here: https://askubuntu.com/help/privileges

You're really very welcome here, Chris, but there are differences between this and a forum. I believe those changes and quirks are what makes it effective.

… is that really the best way to prevent spam on a site?

I'm afraid it is, yes.

I understand the frustration and it can feel pretty backwards when it's getting between you and doing something good, but as somebody who has seen systems without these checks in place, the level of spam we're talking about stopping is almost unimaginable.

To better understand, you'd need to understand that this site runs on the time and sweat of its community.

  • Questions and answers from new users are manually reviewed by 3-5 people
  • These (and other reviews) generate flags that also get reviewed.
  • Flagged issues also go can go up to one of a handful of moderators
  • We ask users to edit and improve any post they can
  • As well as voting, to help distinguish better questions and answers.
  • And that's all before using their expertise to actually help people with their problems. Reviewers get to be reviewers by having reputation.

On a question and answer site, comments are merely an occasionally necessary evil, a lubricant to help questions and answers get better. But given we're already splitting our users time between answering questions and fixing bad ones, reviewing what would-be thousands of comments —many of them "thanks" and "+1", and even more flagrant spam— I think keeping some focus on the questions and answers isn't a bad thing.

You can see more about privileges here: https://askubuntu.com/help/privileges

You're really very welcome here, Chris, but there are differences between this and a forum. I believe those changes and quirks are what makes it effective.

… is that really the best way to prevent spam on a site?

I'm afraid it is, yes.

I understand the frustration and it can feel pretty backwards when it's getting between you and doing something good, but as somebody who has seen systems without these checks in place, the level of spam we're talking about stopping is almost unimaginable.

You also need to understand that this site runs on the time and sweat of its community. This is a very finite resource and we need to spend it carefully.

  • Questions and answers from new users are manually reviewed by 3-5 people
  • These (and other reviews) generate flags that also get reviewed.
  • Flagged issues also go can go up to one of a handful of moderators
  • We ask users to edit and improve any post they can
  • As well as voting, to help distinguish better questions and answers.
  • And that's all before using their expertise to actually help people with their problems. Reviewers get to be reviewers by having reputation.

On a question and answer site, comments are merely an occasional-but-necessary evil, a lubricant to help questions and answers get better. But given we're already splitting our users time between answering questions and fixing bad ones, reviewing what would-be thousands of comments —many of them "thanks" and "+1", and even more flagrant spam— I think keeping some focus on the questions and answers isn't a bad thing.

You can see more about privileges here: https://askubuntu.com/help/privileges

You're really very welcome here, Chris, but there are differences between this and a forum. I believe those changes and quirks are what makes it effective.

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… is that really the best way to prevent spam on a site?

I'm afraid it is, yes.

I understand the frustration and it can feel pretty backwards when it's getting between you and doing something good, but as somebody who has seen systems without these checks in place, the level of spam we're talking about stopping is almost unimaginable.

We do allow 1-rep posting of questions or answers. All those posts are checked by review and are also limited in what they can post, taking up a huge amount of review timeTo better understand, but it's necessaryyou'd need to onboard new usersunderstand that this site runs on the time and sweat of its community.

  • Questions and answers from new users are manually reviewed by 3-5 people
  • These (and other reviews) generate flags that also get reviewed.
  • Flagged issues also go can go up to one of a handful of moderators
  • We ask users to edit and improve any post they can
  • As well as voting, to help distinguish better questions and answers.
  • And that's all before using their expertise to actually help people with their problems. Reviewers get to be reviewers by having reputation.

Commenting is slightly different because it's already something that isn'tOn a question or anand answer (on a Q&A site). They're a, comments are merely an occasionally necessary evil, a lubricant to lubricate the moving parts of the website. They're also not checked as vigorouslyhelp questions and answers get better. We restrict it to But given we're already splitting our users who have more experiencetime between answering questions and fixing bad ones, that have demonstrated some understandingreviewing what would-be thousands of comments —many of them "thanks" and "+1", and even more flagrant spam— I think keeping some focus on the systemquestions and answers isn't a bad thing.

You can see more about privileges here: https://askubuntu.com/help/privileges

You're really very welcome here, Chris, but there are differences between this and a forum. I believe those changes and quirks are what makes it effective.

… is that really the best way to prevent spam on a site?

I'm afraid it is, yes.

I understand the frustration and it can feel pretty backwards when it's getting between you and doing something good, but as somebody who has seen systems without these checks in place, the level of spam we're talking about stopping is almost unimaginable.

We do allow 1-rep posting of questions or answers. All those posts are checked by review and are also limited in what they can post, taking up a huge amount of review time, but it's necessary to onboard new users.

Commenting is slightly different because it's already something that isn't a question or an answer (on a Q&A site). They're a necessary evil to lubricate the moving parts of the website. They're also not checked as vigorously. We restrict it to users who have more experience, that have demonstrated some understanding of the system.

You can see more about privileges here: https://askubuntu.com/help/privileges

You're really very welcome here, Chris, but there are differences between this and a forum. I believe those changes and quirks are what makes it effective.

… is that really the best way to prevent spam on a site?

I'm afraid it is, yes.

I understand the frustration and it can feel pretty backwards when it's getting between you and doing something good, but as somebody who has seen systems without these checks in place, the level of spam we're talking about stopping is almost unimaginable.

To better understand, you'd need to understand that this site runs on the time and sweat of its community.

  • Questions and answers from new users are manually reviewed by 3-5 people
  • These (and other reviews) generate flags that also get reviewed.
  • Flagged issues also go can go up to one of a handful of moderators
  • We ask users to edit and improve any post they can
  • As well as voting, to help distinguish better questions and answers.
  • And that's all before using their expertise to actually help people with their problems. Reviewers get to be reviewers by having reputation.

On a question and answer site, comments are merely an occasionally necessary evil, a lubricant to help questions and answers get better. But given we're already splitting our users time between answering questions and fixing bad ones, reviewing what would-be thousands of comments —many of them "thanks" and "+1", and even more flagrant spam— I think keeping some focus on the questions and answers isn't a bad thing.

You can see more about privileges here: https://askubuntu.com/help/privileges

You're really very welcome here, Chris, but there are differences between this and a forum. I believe those changes and quirks are what makes it effective.

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… is that really the best way to prevent spam on a site?

I'm afraid it is, yes.

I understand the frustration and it can feel pretty backwards when it's getting between you and doing something good, but as somebody who has seen systems without these checks in place, the level of spam we're talking about stopping is almost unimaginable.

We do allow 1-rep posting of questions or answers. All those posts are checked by review and are also limited in what they can post, taking up a huge amount of review time, but it's necessary to onboard new users.

Commenting is slightly different because it's already something that isn't a question or an answer (on a Q&A site). They're a necessary evil to lubricate the moving parts of the website. They're also not checked as vigorously. We restrict it to users who have more experience, that have demonstrated some understanding of the system.

You can see more about privileges here: https://askubuntu.com/help/privileges

You're really very welcome here, Chris, but there are differences between this and a forum. I believe those changes and quirks are what makes it effective.