Timeline for Does the word "best" automatically make a question "Opinion based"?
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Jun 15, 2022 at 16:41 | answer | added | MDeBusk | timeline score: 3 | |
Jun 7, 2022 at 16:28 | comment | added | Thomas Ward Mod | An addendum here: people following the close vote reasons and policies are NOT bullies - the site follows policies for what is or isn't on topic, and close voters aren't bullies. Neither are moderators, who you're accusing of bullying because one of us closed your post originally as opinion based. The question since has been revised to a point it can be 'reopened' but keep in mind it's still likely to get questions of "Well, what about this or this which answer this question?" and dupe close votes still too. That's just the way the site works - don't repost duplicate posts, etc. | |
Jun 6, 2022 at 22:16 | comment | added | NotTheDr01ds | @ArturMeinild I'm not sure about 99% of the time. There are "What's the best way" type of questions (typically left open, since they could just as easily say "How do I") -- Some examples -- 4 of the top 5 are simply "How do I", and the word "best" could be edited out from them without changing the meaning or answers. On the other hand, "What's the best xyz app ..." are typically, rightly, closed. | |
Jun 6, 2022 at 17:32 | comment | added | Artur Meinild | I actually think that 99% percent of the time, including the word "best" would make a question opinion based, since "best" is a very subjective word that will vary greatly, and it simply sends the wrong signal on a site like this. So yeah, avoid asking for "best" solutions, and just ask for solutions - and choose the one that suits you best. | |
Jun 6, 2022 at 15:52 | comment | added | muru | @NotTheDr01ds that plus cross-posting from Unix & Linux. I actually initially voted to close it as plain off-topic due to the cross-posting, and voted to leave closed based on lack of clarity as to which methods were outdated, since the U&L post is now deleted. | |
Jun 6, 2022 at 15:31 | comment | added | NotTheDr01ds | @muru Would you consider writing up a separate answer on this? Since I respect your thought process, I figured there was some reason other than just the "best" problem that caused you to vote-to-close. From your comments, it sounds like it was really more a combination of that plus the lack of research into the other duplicates plus the request for a 2022 answer that made it "opinion based" to you? I think a counter-point answer to mine would be helpful, but I'll leave it up to you. | |
Jun 6, 2022 at 14:11 | comment | added | muru | I didn't assume it, you're the one who asked for a 2022 solution. I'm just pointing out that a "2022" solution might be irrelevant for a 18.04 user or even a 22.04 user based on which version of Ubuntu it was tested with. | |
Jun 6, 2022 at 14:09 | comment | added | pglpm | @muru Not sure why you assume or require that I should know if the year is relevant or not. I just moved to Linux from Windows (as I wrote in my question), and I have no idea about such things - otherwise I wouldn't be posting here in the first place. I tried some of the solutions - some 10-year-old or more, and many didn't work. That's why I asked for an updated solution. | |
Jun 6, 2022 at 14:06 | comment | added | muru | No, the only thing you say you actually tried was GNOME Tweak Tool (which you say was limited), with other things you said you were going to try, but then went to to talk about other sites. Anyway, it's good to see you actually got a solution, in which case I'd recommend that you post an answer to one of these popular questions with apparently outdated answers (but do check that you're not actually duplicating an existing answer). The year you tried it in as not as relevant as the version you tried it with. | |
Jun 6, 2022 at 14:03 | comment | added | pglpm | @muru And I did try several things, as I wrote in my question (but maybe you read it only quickly). | |
Jun 6, 2022 at 14:01 | comment | added | pglpm | @muru I actually solved the problem, after having spent three days looking into the workings of the xkb system. I'll post my own answer to my own question. Comments sprinkled throughout 'ask Ubuntu' saying that xmodmap doesn't really work anymore seem correct. Yes, a big problem of the whole StackExchange concept is that it's "random". Large number of user-points don't mean a user is actually capable or helpful. | |
Jun 6, 2022 at 13:52 | comment | added | muru | You don't seem to have actually tried anything and just asserted that some methods are outdated. But why would you take the word of random users on this site that some particular method is not outdated? If you were willing to do that, then your question is a duplicate of several other similar questions here - and a vote to close as duplicate would be the word of a random user that some answer in the duplicate is up-to-date. | |
Jun 6, 2022 at 13:40 | vote | accept | pglpm | ||
Jun 6, 2022 at 13:31 | answer | added | NotTheDr01ds | timeline score: 7 | |
Jun 6, 2022 at 13:22 | comment | added | NotTheDr01ds | @pglpm Thanks! I'd wait on posting that second question. Mistakes happen - Most moderators will agree. What probably happened here was that someone flagged your question as "opinion based" because of that "best" keyword (which I disagree with), and that the Mod reviewed it and agreed (perhaps too hastily, without taking the full context into account). It happens, and it's one of the reasons we have Meta here for community escalation and review. Let's see what types of answers we get to this revised question and go from there? | |
Jun 6, 2022 at 13:20 | comment | added | pglpm | @NotTheDr01ds Thank you, appreciated. Indeed I was mixing two different issues: the problem with my specific question, and the problem of how whimsical can moderators be. I'll maybe post a second question about the second issue. | |
Jun 6, 2022 at 13:14 | comment | added | NotTheDr01ds | @pglpm I hope you don't mind, but I extensively edited your question to focus on what seems to me to be a very valid point. The problem is that you brought a lot of "fighting words" to the question, and I think that your actual issue might not get noticed with that. Feel free to rollback my edit or edit again if you'd like, but it would be great if we could actually focus on your issue here. | |
Jun 6, 2022 at 13:13 | history | edited | NotTheDr01ds | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
It seems to me to be a very valid question, but the "fight words" get in the way of it. Feel free to edit or revert.
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Jun 6, 2022 at 11:47 | comment | added | pglpm | @VLAZ I erased "best" now. But it's a moot point - I imagine there can be several ways, and people will reply with the way they think it's best. | |
Jun 6, 2022 at 11:41 | comment | added | VLAZ | You asked for the "best" way to do something is. What are your metrics for that? How can an answer fulfill them in order to be "best"? | |
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Jun 6, 2022 at 11:31 | history | asked | pglpm | CC BY-SA 4.0 |