Timeline for Is [top-bar] just another [panel]?
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| May 14, 2018 at 21:01 | comment | added | Zanna Mod | @SergiyKolodyazhnyy there will always be retagging to do, but as someone who has probably retagged thousands of questions by now, I can tell you anything we can do at the source will be a huge help. Prevention is better than cure! | |
| May 14, 2018 at 20:59 | comment | added | Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy | @Zanna Glad I could help :D I just think wrongly tagged questions aren't gonna be resolved just with editing tags alone, but hey whatever helps is good. | |
| May 14, 2018 at 20:56 | comment | added | Zanna Mod | @SergiyKolodyazhnyy ok, there are always going to be users approaching stuff with a high level of cluelessness, but the more ambiguous the tag names are, the larger the number of wrongly tagged questions there will be. The tag [command-line] has the clearest name we could come up with. Why not do better when we can see the way? Anyway, I appreciate you & pomsky explaining that "top bar" is totally different from "panel". I had no idea! Seems like now we have a great opportunity to look at and improve tagging and tag wikis in this topic | |
| May 14, 2018 at 20:44 | comment | added | Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy | @Zanna Well, is that a tag problem then ? If a user tags a question [command-line] and it has nothing to do with command-line at all, then it's PEBKAC and lack of editing around. There's some level of non-sequitor here. | |
| May 14, 2018 at 20:40 | comment | added | Zanna Mod | @pomsky Oh sure, I totally agree that users very often choose wrong tags. But we should try to help them by at least making better tags. Maybe [panel] is too vague and should ideally be broken into more accurate descriptions! | |
| May 14, 2018 at 20:37 | comment | added | Zanna Mod | @SergiyKolodyazhnyy I am fine with a question about Budgie's top bar being tagged [budgie] and [top-bar]. That's wonderful. What I am worried about is swathes of random stuff that has nothing to do with any top bar being tagged [top-bar]. pomsky found that 1/5 of the posts in this tag were incorrectly tagged. | |
| May 14, 2018 at 20:30 | comment | added | pomsky | @Zanna That would always be a problem. I have seen many users use the word "panel" and the corresponding tag too where they actually meant a dock. | |
| May 14, 2018 at 20:27 | comment | added | Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy | @Zanna Agreed, specific tags are better, but then again why can't a question be tagged both [budgie] and [top-bar] ? Multiple tags strung together can be good enough, and avoids making tags for every part of a desktop environment. As for the majority of the users, let's be fair: they may not know at first, but they'll pick up with the help of editing and comments from the community, and perhaps it's better for some users to learn proper terminology if they're serious about daily use of a desktop environment on Linux, i.e. tag synonyms can only help so much, users have to learn,too. | |
| May 14, 2018 at 20:17 | comment | added | Zanna Mod | We can make [budgie-top-bar] too :) IMHO specific tags are always better than vague ones. You folks know the difference between a panel and a top bar, but do the majority of users? cc @SergiyKolodyazhnyy | |
| May 14, 2018 at 20:12 | comment | added | pomsky | @SergiyKolodyazhnyy Exacly, that's my point too: top-bars are "rigid" whereas panels are "flexible". | |
| May 14, 2018 at 20:10 | comment | added | Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy | @pomsky I expressed that in an answer. All I can say is that IMHO [top-bar] is just clear. [panel] - isn't and open to whole lot of confusion. Synonimizing the two may add to confusion. | |
| May 14, 2018 at 19:42 | comment | added | pomsky | @SergiyKolodyazhnyy Good question! If I'm not mistaken Budgie's top-bar behaves almost like GNOME 3 top-bar. What's your thought? | |
| May 14, 2018 at 19:36 | comment | added | Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy | And what are we gonna do about budgie's top bar then ? :) | |
| May 14, 2018 at 14:03 | comment | added | pomsky | @Zanna Well, at least Ubuntu (Canonical Ltd.) calls/called it so. | |
| May 14, 2018 at 13:57 | comment | added | Zanna Mod | Seems the panel in unity was never actually called the menu bar and that's just another poorly named tag on Ask Ubuntu o.O | |
| May 14, 2018 at 11:29 | history | edited | ZannaMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 14, 2018 at 11:28 | comment | added | Zanna Mod | I think renaming [top-bar] to [gnome-top-bar] would be the best option, if we can expect that tag to be used consistently | |
| May 14, 2018 at 11:26 | history | edited | pomsky | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 14, 2018 at 10:16 | history | edited | pomsky | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 14, 2018 at 10:11 | history | answered | pomsky | CC BY-SA 4.0 |