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Jun 13, 2017 at 21:23 comment added Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy @GeorgeM Concerns may be legitimate, and you can post a question about it here or on meta. But there's no reason to give new, untrusted users ability to downvote or comment - malicious downvoting,bot accounts, and spam are legitimate concern,too. If your main point is that new users should be given higher privileges, feel free to post it as feature request here or on the SE Meta site.
Jun 13, 2017 at 21:10 comment added George M Reinstate Monica Yes, again blithely ignoring the legitimate concerns of new users... Don't wonder why the vast majority don't really want to "commit to the site itself".
Jun 13, 2017 at 19:46 comment added Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy @GeorgeM If you want to address anything on the site, you have to commit to the site itself. Basically that. And again, new users can do what wjandrea said or what I suggested: bring that question to light on Meta, but again - this is merely a workaround. Proper way is via proper tools.
Jun 13, 2017 at 19:35 comment added George M Reinstate Monica But many people use the site for answers without "putting in a little bit of effort" (which is no longer anywhere near a little bit, btw) because they generally find what they need, as @Paparazio explains. And if you get messed up from one of those answers, you have no way to address it. Which cannot possibly be the intention for the good of the site, forum or not.
Jun 13, 2017 at 19:25 comment added Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy @GeorgeM Nobody blames new people. Asking to commit a little bit of effort towards the site before they get better tools is fairly reasonable. What new people mistakingly think is that this site is just a forum where you can come and do whatever. It is not a forum.
Jun 13, 2017 at 18:58 comment added George M Reinstate Monica Neither comments nor downvoting are accessible to people just starting out. I would downvote this answer as it is totally irrelevant to the situation described. I get the point of earning a reputation to preserve site quality, but blaming new people for being forced into tortured workarounds is just rude.
Jun 2, 2017 at 17:34 comment added Paparazio Thanks for the clarification, @Sergiy, that makes sense!
Jun 2, 2017 at 17:28 comment added Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy @Paparazio yeah, the whole point I'm making here is that the proper way to do things is via using the privileges that you acquire with the reputation. The answers are really should be made applicable to wide variety of users, and while wjandrea's answer works for a new user, for established member it just makes no sense. As for lack of reputation, the simple point is that we don't want to give every body powers right away, otherwise the site will be overrun with spammers, trolls, and bots. Also, see this: meta.askubuntu.com/q/1209/295286
Jun 2, 2017 at 17:00 comment added Paparazio That makes sense. My main problem however, was the lack of reputation to do anything at all. All of this should not be as big of an issue as soon as I hit the 50-point reputation mark.To be honest, for my situation the reputation system seemed to be a bit counter-intuitive, but I'm sure there are very good reasons for it to have the structure it does.
Jun 2, 2017 at 0:22 history answered Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy CC BY-SA 3.0